More BAMN Nonsense

Shanta Driver, identified here as “a national spokeswoman for BAMN,” both demonstrates and reinforces the credibility problem that afflicts critics of colorblind non-discrimination.

When asked if a popular vote on the initiative would solve the issue, Driver said:

“We can’t have a situation in a majority white state where we’re asking whites to vote on whether blacks and Latinos have equal rights. Historically, white people have voted for white privilege and against black equality.”

Of the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday, Driver said it is the first since the Jim Crow era that the court has decided to “deny voting rights to black people.”

MCRI, for those of you who haven’t memorized it yet, is a proposal to amend the Michigan constitution to bar preferences by state agencies based on race, gender, or ethnicity. Only BAMN could think that allowing citizens to vote on this matter is to “deny voting rights to black people.”

This nonsense rubs off on groups, like the Democrats in Michigan, who associate themselves with it.

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  1. Federal Dog April 2, 2006 at 4:00 pm | | Reply

    Voting rights? So is this person a liar or just plain ignorant? How does she explain how any proposed state legislation could possibly trump the Fifteenth Amendment?

  2. Michelle Dulak Thomson April 2, 2006 at 10:56 pm | | Reply

    It does sort of make you wonder how the Nineteenth Amendment managed to pass. You know, with ZERO of the affected parties permitted to vote on it . . .

  3. Shouting Thomas April 3, 2006 at 7:47 am | | Reply

    Well, she is stating the left’s ideology:

    1. Blacks, women and gays should pursue their self-interest with a vengeance. This is a virtue.

    2. If white men pursue their self-interest, they are racists.

    The only way out of this for white men is to pretend to be gay (not an uncommon occurrence in NYC), and thus include yourself in the groups that can be greedy and grasping.

  4. Cobra April 3, 2006 at 7:03 pm | | Reply

    1. Well, this begs the question of why there is a 188 year gap between the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    Can any of you justify the delay?

    2. States Rights advocates may beg to differ with your conclusions about the reach of the federal government.

    –Cobra

  5. Chetly Zarko April 3, 2006 at 10:16 pm | | Reply

    Cobra,

    There is no justification for the delay!

    Of course, the delay was 72 years between the adoption of 3/5 clause of the US Constitution and the 14th Amendment – a delay that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans in the Civil War. That delay was unjustifiable as well. I suspect there would have been little need for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, a 98 year delay from the end of the Civil War and adoption of the 14th Amendment.

    Let’s not delay equality.

  6. Shouting Thomas April 4, 2006 at 11:42 am | | Reply

    Yes, Cobra, I can justify the delay.

    In fact, it wasn’t a delay at all. The United States set the lead in enfranchising all citizens, regardless of race.

    The black rulers of Africa continue to fail to do so to this day.

    How do you justify this delay?

  7. Marc April 5, 2006 at 9:48 am | | Reply

    Shouting Thomas: The black rulers of Africa continue to fail to do so to this day.

    How do you justify this delay?

    I am black, but was born in the USA. My parents and grandparent and great grandparents as well. Why would I care about Africa politics? Unless you are saying I am African? Which I hope you are not, because I am American and ALWAYS WILL BE. So save the race baiting for another day. There is no justification for delay, as Zarko put it. My question is this: Once you defeat AA, which we know will be defeated, What are we going to do to help the kids be better prepared from the K-12 Schools? Its the same all the time, lets get rid of AA, but have no options for the kids left out. Great, more Asians and Whites are in college!! Now what? Is that the end of the story? Look at Washington state. More Whites and Asians, less blacks and Latino’s. How has that helped anyone? The K-12’s still suck, guilty whites still try to circumvent I-200, meanwhile, nothing is done to make the schools in the poorer areas any better. I think that is the problem with AA and getting rid of it. No one thinks of the future..other than to say, “Buck up, Pull your self up by the bootstraps” and other mouthpiece sayings. A bad school is a bad school. Kids who are not prepared are just as bad and parents who don’t care are the worse. Do we just not care? That is what I hear when I see people wanting to take away AA. I don’t think it is too much to ask for my kids to get a good education, so he can compete with the Asians and Whites? Do you? What say you Cobra or anyone to that question. Race baiting is not the answer. Good schools and a solid eduacation is the answer. Not politics and trying to one up libs and cons…that is old, tired and does nothing for…i dont’ know…THE KIDS!!!! IMHO!

  8. Cobra April 7, 2006 at 6:25 pm | | Reply

    Marc writes:

    >>>”What say you Cobra or anyone to that question. Race baiting is not the answer. Good schools and a solid eduacation is the answer. Not politics and trying to one up libs and cons…that is old, tired and does nothing for…i dont’ know…THE KIDS!!!! IMHO! ”

    But before—Marc writes:

    >>>”My question is this: Once you defeat AA, which we know will be defeated, What are we going to do to help the kids be better prepared from the K-12 Schools? Its the same all the time, lets get rid of AA, but have no options for the kids left out.”

    Marc, I’ll take a crack at it, but you answered your own question:

    >>>”Do we just not care?”

    The story of America is a story about not caring ENOUGH about people…whether they be Native-Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans or even newly arrived European-American immigrants.

    When I see more posts expressing similar outrage about minority discrimination in hiring, housing, health care, law enforcement and voting rights, maybe the comment darts I fling won’t appear as pointed.

    –Cobra

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