Los Angeles Times editor Michael Kinsley, quoted in an article about his nasty dispute with Susan Estrich, says that women are not the only group whose presence on his editorial pages he has been trying to enhance.
“I believe in diversity. I have written about this,” Kinsley said. He said part of his struggle has been in simultaneously trying to increase the number of writers from several groups
I have an idea. Why doesn’t Kinsley hire Ann Coulter. Then he could kill two birds with one stone.
“That’s more “diversity” than universities believe in.”
Its surprising that conservatives don’t go into the fields that offer less material rewards.
Can you imagine if management and corporate boards had affirmative action policies for hiring leftist pro-labor people? Heaven!
Gee, actus, and here I am making a sort-of-living editing an online classical-music review journal, when I could be making a killing on Wall Street, which is obviously what every conservative wants to do with her life.
Obviously conservatism and low-paying jobs are mutually exclusive. Just look at the statistics: all the Red States are rich and all the Blue States are poor. Oh, wait . . . sorry.
“Obviously conservatism and low-paying jobs are mutually exclusive.”
I don’t think so. I just think that conservatives are more likely to have their values confirmed in the private sector. Just like leftists are less likely to rise to the top of corporate hierarchies.
“Obviously conservatism and low-paying jobs are mutually exclusive. Just look at the statistics: all the Red States are rich and all the Blue States are poor.”
Those red states are having good luck with those conservative policies!
It’s possible red states are doing better than blue ones because they are more likely to have governors that implement certain policies, and it is also possible red states are benefitting from their votes for the current president (but that would not be because of “conservative policies,” it would be because of normal “coalitional politics,” sometimes appropriate and sometimes “pork”, but not necessarily conservative or liberal. Its’ also possible, since actus shows no data, that blue states might empirically be doing better than red ones (due to internal migration patterns?). In essence, the claim that actus makes is unprovable, since differences in growth in different states can have a thousand causes.
Just like leftists are less likely to rise to the top of corporate hierarchies.
Well actus let me explain to you why there are so few Leftists. It
Ummm . . . Chetly, I was being sarcastic. The Red States are a lot poorer than the Blue States. That’s why actus’s “no conservative would want to work in a field so unremunerative as academia” shtick got my back up.
In fact, the world is full of low-paid conservatives and high-paid liberals. I’m living now in Novato — sort of the northmost end of Marin County, CA — and apparently this is where a lot of San Francisco’s policemen and firemen live when not on duty shifts. I don’t know whether it’s their being here that accounts for the conservative tone of the place, or whether it’s because they’re here that there’s a conservative tone at all. But in any case, around here the really rich people are liberal, and if you find conservatives, they’re mostly lower-middle-class.
Heads Up, Everyone! Please take your debates about unions, organizing, capitalism, workers, etc., elsewhere. I’m deleting them from here. Note that this is not a rejection based on the content of these comments — some of which were quite good — but rather an attempt on my part to keep discussion here more or less tied to (albeit sometimes with a long leash) to points raised or implied here.
Not so subtle message: please keep your comments at least marginally relevant to the post on which you are commenting.
I’m sure you will let me know if you think I’m being too restrictive. Right now I think you are being too unrestricted. And I hold the keys to the door….
Actus,
I am still waiting for those historically black universities to start programs to attract white, asian, and hispanic students and faculty. I would guess that the least diverse place in the US, other than maybe the editorial office for a major newspaper would be on campus at Alcorn St or Grambling St.
“I am still waiting for those historically black universities to start programs to attract white, asian, and hispanic students and faculty.”
Thats very nice of you to wait instead of militating for it.
Here is the official word about diveristy at a Historically Black University
It’s an historically black college, and it’s going to stay that way,” says Steve Uhlfelder, a white member of the Board of Governors, which oversees the state university system.
Since it is the Black Civil Rights organizaitons that talk continiously about diversity, they should be the ones who demand that HBU’s diversity. Yet, if those same black organizations do not really care about diversity and only want it as an excuse to have set asides and quotas then would take the position that they currently take: encourage the universities to remain the least diversified organizations in higher education.
Hey Chetly,
I/m still waiting for you and Jenny gratz to pass a communique saying that both of YOU OBJECT TO ALL KINDS OF PREFERENCES ( ALUMNI,RACE, UPPER PENINSULA ETC) we need a judicial ukase coming down from the courts over there banning all kinds of preferences. You and Jenny are sort of hypocrites right? Why don’t you denounce all kinds of preferences over there not just race preferences?. As they say you have denounce both the Bolsheviks and the monarchist whites aka Denikin and Wrangel.
I shall take the opportunity of verging from something off topic ok? I’ll just use this example to show the the true nature of race preferences
Number of blacks and Asians * who enrolled in fall 2203 in the freshman class in 4 schools ( check this with the Association of American Medical Colleges website or their guidebooks)
School Asians who blacks who
enrolled in the fall enrolled in the
fall 2003 1st year class—–ditto–
Harvard————21—————–26
U of Maas———–11—————–1
in Worcester
U of Pennsylvania—-10—————–15
columbia————–14—————-17
Temple—————-30—————-15
The above data tells us about the number of blacks and Asians* who enrolled in the first year freshman class of these medical schools in the fall of 2003. When I say Asians, I mean Chinese, Japanese, Pilipinos, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais etc., this does not include East Indians,Pakistanis , Bangladeshis etc.
Contrast the data between harvard medical school and U of mass Worcester…….Am I to believe that everyone or even one of the blacks who enrolled in the freshman class of harvard for that year got a higher MCAT score score than everyone or at least one of the Asians* who enrolled in the fresshman class of HMS for that year. Tells you the level of desperation that Harvard, Penn and Columbia
medical schools must have in order to fulfill their racial qoutas for blacks. Why doesn’t the rotten New york times talk about this?
The data should actually read like this:
School——— Asian* ——— black
————- enrolled——–enrolled
Harvard————21————–25
Columbia————14————-17
Penn—————-10————–15
U of MAss————11————–1
Worcester
Temple—————-30————15
This is data from 5 medical listing how many blacks and Asians* in their first year medical classes in fall of 2003. The first column is the name of the school, the 2nd column is the # of Asians * who enrolled in their first year class, the 3rd column is the number of blacks who enrolled in their first year class, same year of course.
The 3/15/05 01:29 AM post was made by Leo Cruz